Check out the latest W.N.D.P episode!
https://wednesdaynightdrinkingpractice.podbean.com/e/wndp-48-steve-gardels-track-phones-and-sparkle-hands/
or https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/w-n-d-p-48-steve-gardels-track-phones-and-sparkle-hands/id1272849073?i=1000392490940&mt=2